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Tycio

Just watched this and added some pics of how some characters appear in it.

I was thinking maybe of doing a category for characters who appear in the live film? Since it's more concise than the anime a lot of characters (Mikako, her husband and daughter, Isabella's butler, mohawk guy) got left out.

In a way something like 'characters that appear in film' would be kind of a 'main characters' since presumably if someone was left out of there, they weren't considered main enough.

I felt kinda sad they left out the chars that linked back to Gokinjo though. I don't think a single Gokinjo char was in the film (unless we count Miwako I guess? though I think she's just in the manga and not in the anime) so it was just all the new chars. Didn't even get to see Arashi's mom.

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  22:29, May 18, 2013

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  Samanthafan09

  I thinking of calling the category "Live-action film characters" or simply "Film characters". I only saw half of the film, but I was disappointed to hear that Mikako wasn't in it, since she's one of my favorite characters.

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Yamamoto

Tycio

Noticed the move from IP's Isabella page to Daisuke page. I added to characters category but figured it would be good to discuss beforehand with you before tagging a gender-based category. Biologically male but personality-wise female I'm not sure what we should do.

It occurred to me though, perhaps we could have 2 articles, a 'male' article for Daisuke pre-transition and a 'female' article for Isabella post-transition? Then they could kinda link to each other?

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19:32, April 19, 2013

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  That's a good idea the two article thing. It's also a lot less complicated than listing her as a guy and girl, which is what I was going to do before.

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  21:52, April 19, 2013

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  Tycio

  So since the current article's predominantly about Isabella should it be moved back to that name and then Daisuke could be changed from redirect to boy-page?

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  Samanthafan09

  yeah

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Character ages

Tycio

I am wondering, would it be possible to list their ages before and after the timeskip that occurs at Stage 48? Pre-skip Mikako appears to be 36 so I am wondering how old Miwako was at the start of Parakiss so I could subtract her age and figure out how old Mikako was when Miwako was born.

Curious about this since I don't recall Miwako being in Gokinjo and know it's a huge skip forward.

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  Samanthafan09

  Yeah I've debating that for awhile listing their ages that way is probably more convenient. Miwako appears in last chapter of Gokinjo along with Hiroyuki and Arashi. I'm sure that Miwako was born when Mikako was 18/19.

  Miwako is also the same age as Yukari, George, Isabella, Hiro, and Arashi.

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  Tycio

  Ah okay, I kinda figured Miwako came shortly after where the Gokinjo anime ended since the parents got back together.

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A to Z

Tycio

I noticed you made this for grouping every single page on your wiki. You might be interested in an automated function that already exists for this purpose called Special:AllPages.

This would allow every page to be listed without having to go to the trouble of using categories.

I notice there are 2 different 'list of episodes' and 'list of chapters' for each of the two series. Then it appears that the articles for each are combined. The Yamaguchi Family's Tsutomu-kun, the 1st GM chapter, is in the same Category:Chapters as Stage 5 and Stage 7.

Similarly it appears that My Childhood Friend is in the same Category:Episodes as Atelier and George.

I was thinking, would it be possible as more from both are added, to do more specific categories that group it like series? Such as Category:Gokinjo Monogatari episodes or Category:Paradise Kiss episodes.

Or alternatively and perhaps more simply, such content is welcome over at w:c:Gokinjo and I'd be glad to make you a SysOp there. Was not aware until you made the edit that this series had a fan doing so much work on it.

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  Samanthafan09

  I use the A to Z category, so the "read more" section always has three articles to look at. I use the Special:AllPages to look at redirects, etc.

  Yeah, I agree about adding the more specific categories, I was still debating to myself about it. I just added the, and Chapter:Episodes, so the chapters, and episodes, could have a sort of "hub" to be located in.

  I don't know about moving the Gokinjo Monogatari content, I just think it would get sort of confusing, when writing character pages, etc.

  I'm so sorry for doing that to your wikis I thought you were inactive, I feel so bad about it. I should have asked you first.

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  Tycio

  No problem, they basically were inactive, just not to the point where I'd be giving up on it.

  From what you've seen, I'm wondering how much the characters from GM appear in PK. It is very limited, sort of like the link between Angelic Layer and Chobits? Or seeing xxxHolic chars in Tsubasa?

  I guess I'm thinking perhaps there could be extensive char pages for the main chars of GM and then they would have briefer pages here for their role in PK. Some chars from GM probably don't appear in PK and could be easily overlooked.

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  Samanthafan09

  Yeah, I was just thinking your idea over. I think it could work actually if we moved all the GM pages to the w:c:gokinjo wiki. And, we could use the w:c:aiy wiki as hub for all the Ai Yazawa wikis (I started a w:c:tenshinankajanai wiki, its still under construction.)

  Actually, Mikako, Seiji, and Ms. Hamada appear in it a lot . (If you go to Mikako's page you'll see under the behind the scenes section, how many chapters she appeared in.)

  I agree with your idea, on the pages we could leave links, so if they want to know more they could go the other wiki to read more. Yeah, characters like P-chan, and Body-ko could get overlooked.

  Have you never read or seen PK? I've read and seen everything of PK, I watched most of GM, and I just started reading it recently.

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  Tycio

  Nope, I guess I figured they wouldn't be in it much, knowing they appear more, it'd probably be good to watch it soon before I forget too much about it. Gave SysOp powers on the other 2 btw, in case you wanted to use Export/Import.

  Regarding that other one, is too bad there's no nickname for the thing, is quite a handful to type. I'd prob stylize it w:c:TenshiNankaJaNai or something, I found that apparently caps don't matter when we link communities which is a bonus.

  " This series should not be confused with another similarly titled manga, Tenshi Ja Nai." on Wikipedia.

  That being the key difference it appears the Nanka is the most critical I guess. Telling the difference between "I'm not an angel" versus "I'm no angel" is going to confuse me :) Nanka's got an OVA tho it seems so will schedule that.

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  Samanthafan09

  Gave you SysOp powers too, yeah I plan to watch GM too, I'm going to rewatch PK first though.

  Yeah, I made it just before we started messaging eachother. I saw the OVA a long time ago it mostly just details the the first chapter of the manga I think.

  I made this template to put on the main pages of the wikis:

  Part of the Shōjo Manga Hub

  Ai Yazawa Wikis Gokinjo Monogatari Wiki • Paradise Kiss Wiki Nana Wiki • Tenshi Nanka Ja Nai Wiki • Kagen no Tsuki Wiki Wataru Yoshizumi Wikis Marmalade Boy Wiki • Handsome Girlfriend Wiki Ultra Maniac Wiki Miho Obana Wiki Kodocha Wiki

  I was thinking of changing the picture to feature all of Yazawa's works. And about Kagen no Tsuki, you might be able to find a nickname for it, I think it translates into "Last Quarter of the Moon."

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  Tycio

  Yeah I like the idea of having the AiY about all works, makes more sense that way. Maybe it could feature stuff about Ai herself also.

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  Samanthafan09

  Yeah, I can't wait to start combining, and editing the wikis :) I'm going to start editing tomorrow.

  Btw, can you change the name of w:c:aiy from "Ai Yazawa's Gokinjo Monogatari...etc." to just "Ai Yazawa Wiki" I think it's more simpler that way, and w:c:gokinjo from "Gokinjo Monogatari (Neighborhood Story)" to just "Gokinjo Monogatari" it just seems to long.

  P.S. do you mind if I customize the wikis, I really think style is important :)

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  Tycio

  Not at all, I'm purely data-oriented and lack the aesthetic sense for style background customizations and stuff. I'll contact staff about shortening the names. What with Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari hopefully anime fans will know what monogatari means by this time I guess, though we could make a note of the translation on the homepage.

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  Samanthafan09

  Great, I'll start custominzing the backgrounds and stuff soon, I'll have to figure out something to do with w:c:aiy, maybe just a picture of all of Yazawa's works too:)

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